For F*** Magazine
THE AMAZING
SPIDER-MAN 2 INTERVIEWS
JAMIE FOXX
Oscar-winner, hip hop singer/musician, Tarantino
anti-hero, comedian – Jamie Foxx can now add “comic book movie supervillain” to
his list of illustrious achievements.
By Jedd Jong
In The
Amazing Spider-Man 2, Foxx (born Eric Marlon Bishop) will play Max Dillon/Electro,
a lowly, put-upon employee of Oscorp who gains superpowers and becomes
crackling electricity incarnate. After grabbing a bite of grilled salmon, Foxx
sat down to chat with F***, breaking out into
multiple spot-on impressions, reminiscing about his first exposure to Spider-Man through, funnily enough, The Electric Company and explaining why
he values a legacy of diverse characters over “chasing the money”.
First off, is
it good to be bad?
It’s good to be bad. It’s good to be bad! You gotta think a little like this:
what I think is that the badder I am, the better it is for Spider-Man, the more
heroic (he’ll be). So basically, there were times when they had lines for me
that were funny and I was like “I don’t wanna do that, I wanna stay evil, I
wanna stay mean” because if you really feel like I’m angry at him, it makes you
squirm a little more. I really wanna hurt him, I really wanna make sure that I
wipe Spider-Man off the planet earth because I want that spotlight. We deal
with that all the time, you get a gig, you know, doing this and somebody else
didn’t get it and you go (sneers) “I can’t stand her!” It’s just like the story
of Amadeus, remember the movie?
You were
rapping at the press conference, was that part of taking in the limelight?
It all works, even the antics outside of the movie
make it bigger so that when it does open, you feel that underlying emotion of
what Electro really is. Basically what he is is that he’s bitter of the talents
he’s been given. They even talk about it in the Bible, the guy feels like
someone got more talent and got blessed with more than he has so he seethes.
That basic emotion is what we capitalise on in the film.
Have you ever
thought of playing a villain in a blockbuster before this?
No, I’ve never thought (about that) but we know one
thing in Hollywood: the villain is always the most exciting person to play.
What’s great about Electro is that you can’t kill electricity, it just goes
away and it can pop up at any time. We all know that playing the villain is
exciting.
From what
we’ve seen of Electro in the preview footage, we don’t hate you because it
seems like he’s just lost, and you’re portraying a certain vulnerability.
Yeah, he’s just lost. I think that’s the way it is
with all the Spider-Man villains. The
villains start off being angry for a reason, there’s something that happens and
the world squeezes in on them and they turn into this – “I need help, and no
one will help me.” It’s the same thing with Max, he’s like “I just need help”
and then when I see Spider-Man, my “friend”, they all just start shooting at me
and then (sneers) “why?” He’s not being able to think correctly because he
obsessed over Spider-Man, he’s like “I wish I could be like him, it must be so
cool!” So a person who obsesses like that, you know, love and hate (makes a
dial motion with his thumb and forefinger) it’s almost the same. You always
hurt the ones you love.
How does
Electro shower?
He showers in a thunderstorm. “I gotta take a shower”
(makes crackling sounds).
As a child,
did you enjoy the Spider-Man
cartoons?
Jamie: Yeah! There was a show when I was a kid called The Electric Company, “Cat. Hat! Morgan
Freeman!” They would run Spider-Man
clips in between the educational portions of that. That was the first time you
were really exposed to a superhero on television who wasn’t animated. So we’d
be like “oh man, Spider-Man!” We were running around in the neighbourhood doing
that little web thing (does the web-shooting hand sign) and we didn’t think
very much about it but now that you’re older, I’m like wow, how great is that
to have watched that as a kid in the middle of a small town and now here you
are, toe to toe with the biggest character on the planet? Crazy.
It doesn’t
seem like Electro is very smart, he’s being used by Harry in this film. You
usually portray smart characters, like Django and the president. What was it
like to play dumb?
I think what it is is that anytime I watch a movie, or
you watch a movie and the character that you’re rooting for has a certain “I
know more than anybody in the room”, “I’ll figure it out if I don’t know…”
those are the ingredients. When you watch Rocky,
Rocky wasn’t smart. But Rocky used everything that he could to overcome
whatever it was. He used love, he used brute strength, he used stuff that was
almost supernatural like a belief that he could use his will. Any time you see
what of those characters, I could be watching Beverly Hills Cop and Eddie Murphy was smarter than everybody, when
he was getting the fingerprints off of the aquarium. Any time you see a
character who has that kind of intellect, it makes you like them because that’s
who you aspire to be.
How do you
maintain a dedication to your work and impart it to the younger actors you work
with, like Emma Stone and Andrew Garfield?
I tell you what it is: Ellen Barkin, in like 2005,
walks up to me after the Ray Charles Oscar (win) and says “if you chase the
money, I’ll kick your ass” and I said “what do you mean?” She said “don’t chase
the money. Always do great work.” She said “you have a seven year grace period.
Once you do something fantastic in this business, you got seven years until you
have to do something (again).” By not chasing the money, I mean I wanted to
chase the money. I wanted to be the Chris Tucker or the Will Smith, but it
didn’t work out that way but I think it helped in that mostly all of the things
we did, had a type of integrity to it.
Here’s something incredible: Quentin Tarantino is the
best director in the world. When he created Django
and I was able to be blessed to play that part, it changes everything. When you
do Django, now the lay of the land opens up to you
because Django was, to me, Quentin
Tarantino’s best movie and I think all of the movies he had done before that,
was getting him ready for something like Django.
Once Django happened, roles like
this, roles like Annie, now I can
sort of pick the stuff that I want to do and allow something like Spider-Man to exist in a space where
you’re working with someone who’s a great actor or great actress and we’re
learning from each other but you know that it’s fantastic work when without him
(Andrew Garfield), without the costume on, he’s still captivating. Emma Stone
is still captivating. You can watch the love story between them without
worrying about him putting on the costume. So that’s what you want to be, you
always want to work with, if you can, great actors, whether they be young or
old. I think the integrity of it is what makes it great, and what gives you
enthusiasm. Going to work on Django,
it was like an all-star game! I mean Leonardo, Samuel L. Jackson, it’s
ridiculous! Here’s the thing, within that, quiet is better. In Django, quiet was better. The eyes, the
look, the love that he had for his girl. ‘Cos how do you go toe to toe with
Samuel L. Jackson every day? That’s tough! They would say action and he’d go (As
Samuel L. Jackson) “why’s you feel the need to entertain this n*****?” And cut.
“How was that, you like that?”
Do you ever
feel scared or insecure?
Of course you’re scared! I did a movie (Law-Abiding Citizen) and I had a scene
with Viola Davis and she killed me in the scene. It was so bad that the
director walks up and I say “she’s killing me in this scene” and he said “yes,
she is.” So I said “what do you think I should do?” He said “why don’t you just
do facial expressions?” Some of these people, they can really, really go. So
you’re nervous but you try to learn from them.
What do you
chase now since you’ve decided not to chase the money and you’ve gotten the
recognition in the form of an Oscar?
You know what you chase? You chase history. This is
what it is. God bless you get to 70 or 80 years old, and you look back on your
career. And every actor or actress will tell you it’s not the money that they
really want, it’s the name of the character that they leave. I did a television
show, I played a character called Wanda, everybody remembers Wanda. In Living Colour. I did a football movie
(Any Given Sunday and played a
character) called Willy Beaman. Go to any sports guy and say “Willy Beaman” and
they know who that guy is. Ali I did
a guy named Bundini Brown. (As Bundini Brown) “Muhammad Ali is a prophet, how
you gonna be god? As soon as you come out to the garage you be number 2.”
Bundini Brown.
Does each
character stay with you forever?
Yeah, it’s like a file. And then, here comes Ray
Charles. (As Ray Charles) “Hey, you know I’m gonna make you do what you do.
Hey-o, tell everybody, Ray Charles in town!” Then the next thing you know, here
comes Django. All over the world,
little kids say “you’re Django.” Electro, Annie,
now Daddy Warbucks. So when you look back on your career, you want to be able
to say “I stepped into every genre, I stepped into every character and I was
able to leave a name for people” and that’s really all you can do. And then
hopefully, (as Mike Tyson) Mike Tyson. “I was boxing champ!” Hopefully we’ll do
that next. You know what I’m saying?
Do the layers
of characters enrich Jamie Foxx as a person?
Yeah, I think what it does is when I think about the
characters that I do, there’s a file in the back of my head and I say “go get
the Ray Charles file” or “go get the President Obama file” (As Obama) “if
there’s…any indication that we’re not the most…credible country in the world
and…yes we can” I mean so where it’s all these different files, but what it
doesn’t do is…I have a friend, girlfriend of mine named Samantha. She does a
million characters, but she can’t sit here and not do a character. Like it’s constant,
which is interesting. So I’m happy that my characters don’t always…that I can
sit here as a regular guy and just chill. But it does enrich me, and if you let
it grow, you lose the feel of stepping into other characters.
How do you
keep the balance between making movies, making music and your other endeavours?
You got to take the time out to do it good. If you do
music, you gotta find guys who do real music and not music for Jamie Foxx,
because if you allow your ego to get in the way and make them do the “Jamie
Foxx music” then you won’t get a hit. I got a guy named Breyon Prescott who
finds hits. He found all of these different hits for me, so again, you humble
yourself. Anytime you go into anything, you humble yourself. The minute you go
into anything (with pride), that’s when you lose. And I noticed that, I said
“oh, I’m going to do this and this because this is what I think they want and
you lose.” So with everything that you do, after a certain age, you have to
rely on someone else’s opinions. Being 46, I’ve got to rely on my friends who
are 25, 26 to tell me what type of music is relevant. In movies, yeah, I know
where my talent can go, but I’ve got to lean on the director. It seems like
you’ve got to have a director who is really alpha male and really, really knows
the direction. So I’ve been lucky with Michael Mann, Taylor Hackford, Quentin
Tarantino, serious; Oliver Stone, guys who know how to take the talent and make
it what it needs to be.
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